VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Is it me or does it seem when you're not on say Sage's or Josy's route it seems like they're trying to meddle in MC's relationship like Josy telling Sage about MC dating Bella or Sage telling MC that Lilly is using him or when Jill tells Bella that it's against the rules to date a student which ok that argument has merit but it still comes off as meddling and Maya not so much directly meddles but you can tell that she's grown fonder of MC and is unsure of her relationship status with Josy seems like the green-eyed monster is running rampant throughout the MG's.
 
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MP Sage doesn't care about Zoey


I see what you're saying, and it's perhaps true in a 100 foot view of humans interacting. But no, Zoey isn't a threat. According to Sage, it's about her previous relationship with Chad.

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She doesn't see Zoey as an ex-best friend, but an ex-lover, which to MC isn't the case, even if he has described her as such. She's simply scared of her having another cheating-boyfriend experience.

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To the MC, Zoey was his best and only friend, and a lover. But not to Zoey. Zoey never saw it as a real relationship, even if the MC felt that way.

Sage didn't know he felt like this, because he didn't describe it to her at the time after meeting Neil.

"I don't want you to worry about me and Zoey. We're just talking... In fact, it's been hard to do so since she returned."

And then the conversation later goes to asking for Chad's contact info and the DIK's conflict. And that's that. Conflict resolved. Zoey is a non-issue between Sage and the MC.


No Zoey isn't a threat in the way you've described one. Sage simply doesn't know or trust Zoey. If the MC gives into Zoey's advances (if there are any), Sage would just break it off. Since she trusts the MC, it doesn't matter how many relationships she's had before. In regards to her past, it's about her being worried since Chad cheated on her, and she doesn't want to go through that again.



Again, Zoey was never a threat. How can Sage be threatened by some girl she's never really met? (And who the heck can compete with Sage? Especially since she knows how MC feels about Zoey.) This is no different than the fear of the unknown, and the story that it's an ex. The only conflict in Sage's head is Sage's feelings about being cheated on. She simply didn't understand Zoey or at least how the MC thought of Zoey. The same way she didn't understand the MC viz a vis Chad. So in a sense, in reality, she actually wasn't 100% sure about the MC, even though she said she trusts the MC, and not Zoey. *Yay women logic.* She doesn't know and doesn't care about Zoey.


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That's just Sage's general opinion on ex's or what have you, as we hear with Jill's nail talk. Zoey could've gotten different advice and not confessed, or just been an old friend saying hi again. But because she's such a wrecking ball to BAD and hence the title "Paradigm Shift". (Which I hope is just a narrative nod, and not DPK changing the entire game to match a Zoey path.)

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And if she kept talking to the MC, then the issue would have been resolved. Luckily that happens over the phone later.


He's had plenty of time. Regardless, he's absolved.
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After the rejection (again, auto or chosen), not only has he had a lot of time to think, the MC admits he's not in love with Zoey. He's so clear that he messaged her about how she's feeling, because he's completely resolved on the issue, and concerned about her as a friend.

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There's no reason to bring any of this up again to Sage. Or anyone for that matter.

This whole idea of whether the MC should tell Sage about Zoey confessing is irrelevant nonsense some of you guys are hung up on for some reason. There is no conflict to or with Sage. There is no conflict with the MC. There is no emotional hang up. There is no worry or doubt or guilt or...anything. There is no mystery. No cause. There is no "oh, should I tell Sage or no? I wonder what I should do? Sage likes honesty! I should tell her everything about every female I meet who likes me!"

If you want to contemplate something along those lines, think what a DIK MC would do with the Jade reveal or how. But even that is "so what?" Because DIK MC wouldn't care, and nor should he as he didn't do anything wrong, but the narrative wants to paint it as such that he's on a guilt trip. You could argue that DIK MC isn't necessary, or is slowly becoming Neutral with Sage, etc. But that at least has a cause for concern in the narrative.



Why? Zoey's out of the picture. MC made his Sage choice in what, Episode 8: Crossroads? Zoey is no different than any girl who wants to make out with him, or get it on with the MC. The MC's response is always "Nope." Or "I'm with Sage. If you're into a threesome, let me pass that by my Other's Queen..."



He already chose Sage, and vice versa. Minus Jade, he can say ILY, and she can reply in kind. Zoey's friendship or relationship of any kind is irrelevant and has been resolved as per the phone call. The MC is also of the same mind, having rejected Zoey's love declaration.

In your "threat" idea, there's no reason to embarrass Zoey as she is the victim, and Sage is the victor. And I can't see the MC as being petty for the sake of telling Sage "the truth" when it doesn't matter.

If DPC brings this up, he's a melodramatic hack. Look at how this was resolved with the Bella/Jill scenario. If Bella was chosen, Jill has what, one talk? And then Jill's fine. (Seriously Jill?) With choosing Jill, Bella, literally closes the matter over the phone in the same rejection, and does absolutely nothing afterward.
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All of this ignores Sage's personality. If Sage were like this she would have broken up with Chad the minute she found the panties in his gym bag. Instead she hung on to the idea of finding out who Chad's bitch was. Sage is not the type to just let go. The subject of Zoey is not over and done with.

I've seen that you have trouble understanding this and there really is no point in discussing this with you when you misunderstand the characters on such a fundamental level.
 
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treechild1 said:
It does seem like you've had some pent up, unrequited thirst for thirsty/yoga/Cindy girl for a long time. Well over a year... You doing okay there? :Kappa:
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Let BC Spock have this time for now. It is sweet and enduring.

EP13....Yoga girl takes MC home to meet her parents..... on the Sage path, we already saw them walking into the restaurant while on the Sage dinner and movie date.
 
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Thought for the day. At the beauty salon, Sage was completely on the right track with her opinion on formers staying "friends".
 
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MiltonPowers said:
22 RP with Sage is not difficult, there is 46 or 47, so you really only need half of them (which is pretty easy to get).

It's the 4 or less cheat points you have to watch to get to the ILY.

That scene you mentioned is the one you need to get the threesome with Cammie. When they play dots you need at least 1 DOT point or the threesome will not happen, then offer Camila a spot in your bed and flirt with her in class at the start of Episode 11.
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Too much activity at the DiKs Christmas party with other girls will mean the Sage ILY doesn't happen. Tried it with my Sage only (no other side influence) path.
 
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Roger-a-Dale said:
All of this ignores Sage's personality. If Sage were like this she would have broken up with Chad the minute she found the panties in his gym bag. Instead she hung on to the idea of finding out who Chad's bitch was. Sage is not the type to just let go. The subject of Zoey is not over and done with.

I've seen that you have trouble understanding this and there really is no point in discussing this with you when you misunderstand the characters on such a fundamental level.
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The reason on why she didn't break up with Chad was not that Sage is possessive, or that she sees other people as a threat. Is that she doesn't want to abandon him. She doesn't want to let go that easily. That's why she wanted to find out who the "bitch" was. She needed something to be justified. Or at least that's what she told herself. Again, Sage is complicated and with a lot of fears despite her out-going and carefree personality.
 
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NotEthan;P said:
The reason on why she didn't break up with Chad was not that Sage is possessive, or that she sees other people as a threat. Is that she doesn't want to abandon him. She doesn't want to let go that easily. That's why she wanted to find out who the "bitch" was. She needed something to be justified. Or at least that's what she told herself. Again, Sage is complicated and with a lot of fears despite her out-going and carefree personality.
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Yeah, in the heart to heart with Maya she also admits that, that her outgoing personality is just a mask but in reality she almost always has her walls up.
 
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Chillout1984 said:
I know, but it's just I saw way more different people speak highly of her after release of ep 11 than in the 2 months up to the release of that episode.
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Well I think because of more prominent screen time and it was confirmed that Cinderella is the thirsty Ghoul in ep9 other path. So she became an overnight sensation. Still I give credit to were it's due and Better Cock Spock and MiltonPowers made her popular to this thread when they keep posting this mysterious yoga girl in the yoga session. Especially Spock with his continuous simping.
 
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Macky009 said:
They become official couple in ep10
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The reason the game doesn't treat the 4 you don't pick as exes during the interaction between the group is because it's optional to date them. Zoey is treated differently because her & Tremolo's relationship exist regardless of the chosen path. It's a game limitation. Not a narrative issue.

Because if you date all 5 women at the same time, they all feel they are in a relationship with Tremolo. Some handle the breakup better than others. Sage, Maya & Bella handle it fairly maturely. Josy does not handle the breakup well at all. And Jill is devastated. Just because Sage, Maya, & Bella don't freak out, doesn't mean they weren't hurt or devastated by not being chosen. You can tell they were.

In a real world scenario, Sage would be a hypocrite to have an issue with Zoey, but have no issues with Josy & Maya. And if she found out about Jill & Bella, the same would be true. The only difference between Zoey & the rest is time.
 
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John Ness said:
By the way, "topless panty party with her boyfriend and four of his exes" is beyond stupid even for a porn game.
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It wouldn't be that stupid if they just did it at their dorm, sorority or frat while drunk considering this is based in a college setting...

The stupid part is them being tipsy at best and the oldest one (who is even their teacher at this point in time) being the instigator.
 
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Macky009 said:
Well I think because of more prominent screen time and it was confirmed that Cinderella is the thirsty Ghoul in ep9 other path. So she became an overnight sensation. Still I give credit to were it's due and Better Cock Spock and MiltonPowers made her popular to this thread when they keep posting this mysterious yoga girl in the yoga session. Especially Spock with his continuous simping.
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DPC and BC Spock are on the same chat app. You didn't hear that from me.
 
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4Zero9Zero said:
I don't think we played the same game bro

Sage ILY scene and Lily Gentle completely void this, they're textbook erotic and have a ton of meaning to them and that's just 2, the quality has improved massively over the course of the game. The scenes are just getting better now that real connections and bonds are deepening
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"Quality improved massively"? Have you seen that there was not a single rendering with clothes posed decently, some are really too much wrong to even pass the always "very flexible" DPC's approach? That's worse than first episodes. Sage had a completely broken back in one scene, she would be dead or condemned to a wheelchair for the rest of her life. While shiny teeth plague continues and there is not a single cloth touching the body of a character.
Winter jackets looked so horrible, not just on girls (boobs area was most affected) but Tremolo's too. But pants were plagued too, strangely.
"Textbook erotic"? LOLWUT? I have yet to play Lily's path, but where is eroticism in Jill's and Sage's scenes? The lewd dialogues are lacking and boring. That's not erotic even for the low standards of a horny 13 years old boy.
 
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Gunizz said:
"Quality improved massively"? Have you seen that there was not a single rendering with clothes posed decently, some are really too much wrong to even pass the always "very flexible" DPC's approach? That's worse than first episodes. Sage had a completely broken back in one scene, she would be dead or condemned to a wheelchair for the rest of her life. While shiny teeth plague continues and there is not a single cloth touching the body of a character.
Winter jackets looked so horrible, not just on girls (boobs area was most affected) but Tremolo's too. But pants were plagued too, strangely.
"Textbook erotic"? LOLWUT? I have yet to play Lily's path, but where is eroticism in Jill's and Sage's scenes? The lewd dialogues are lacking and boring. That's not erotic even for the low standards of a horny 13 years old boy.
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I only quoted point 4 of your post, the sex scenes

I didn't bring up posing or the mini games because there are definitely some issues with comically large proportioned characters and clothes, never play with mini games because I hate them

erotic definition:
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How do you not see any of this in Sage scenes? even Jill has her moments, what's your definition of erotic?
I am talking purely from the perspective of MC and not real life because this game has gone beyond just a bog standard porn game

Dialogue is just your standard sex talk sure, I didn't disagree with everything you said but to say there's no improvement in the sex scenes is wild
 
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